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Date: Wed, 25 May 94 15:39:50 PDT From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #574 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Wed, 25 May 94 Volume 94 : Issue 574 Today's Topics: Amp-Hours for a Battery Bizarre QST statement California 2m Repeaters CB/HAM radio interference on phone lines Coastwatcher radios Help for RS-DX-440/Sangean 803A Lists of ham radio lists Logging software? Motorola GPS engine purchase information Scurvy knaves at ARRL Straight Key Interface for Supermorse Test session wierdos WANTED: Address to get info from tapr.org What does HAM mean ? Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Info-Hams-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 25 May 1994 16:32:04 GMT From: nothing.ucsd.edu!brian@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Amp-Hours for a Battery To: info-hams@ucsd.edu If you put your ammeter on the 10-amp scale and connected it across the battery, and it didn't immediately glow red and melt, then the battery is bad. - Brian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 18:24:54 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!amdahl!netcomsv!netcom.com!greg@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Bizarre QST statement To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In June QST, there is an article on buying your first HF rig. Hooray! However, the author makes a really bizarre statement: In talking about hybrid rigs, he instructs the neophyte to stay away from those which have sweep tubes in the final, and go only for those with 'real' transmitting tubes (6146, presumably). Pretty much narrows it down to 'Kenwood.' It lets out Drake 4-line, which he mentioned as an example, FT-101s, etc. One wonders how such a bizarre and subjective criteria got by the editorial staff. Would we really tell a Novice not to buy a good used TR4C or FT-101!?! Yeah, I like 6146s better, but sweep tubes are both effective and available. Greg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 17:01:16 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!news.larc.nasa.gov!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!sal.wisc.edu!zimmer!zimmer.csufresno.edu!rafaels@network. Subject: California 2m Repeaters To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Anyone knows if there is an FTP site/file(s) with repeater frequency/location information? Is this in a FAQ? Where is the FAQ? Thanks. 73 de Rafael (waiting for my ticket!) ******************************************************************* Rafael Solis, Professor Craig School of Business rafaels@zimmer.csufresno.edu California State University, Fresno (209)278-2194 (209)278-4911 (Fax) ******************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: 25 May 1994 18:37:18 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!hopscotch.ksr.com!jfw@network.ucsd.edu Subject: CB/HAM radio interference on phone lines To: info-hams@ucsd.edu gad@fncrd7.fnal.gov (greg deuerling) writes: > [Tale of RFI woe deleted.] For those who are interested, the full text of the FCC report on phone RFI can be found in fcc.gov:/pub/Reports/rpts4002.txt including a list of telephones that did not appear to be susceptible to RFI in their (somewhat limited) tests. ------------------------------ Date: 25 May 94 17:34:32 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: Coastwatcher radios To: info-hams@ucsd.edu There is a diorama of a coastwatchers station including radio at the Admiral Nimitz Museum in fredricksburg, Texas. You might contact them for information. 73 de John N5TIM ----------------------------------------------- >ubject: Attention OZ - need info on Coastwatcher radios >To: info-hams@ucsd.edu >To any Australian amateurs (or others): >I would like to obtain technical information >on the radios used by the Coastwatchers in both >Australia and in the Solomons during WWII. >I would like to obtain photographs, technical descriptions, >schematics, and stories of their use. Are any of these sets >preserved anywhere. Are any available? >Many thanks in advance. >Grover >WT6P >************************************************************************ >* Grover Cleveland WT6P@KE6LW.#NOCAL.CA * >* Instructional Designer v(916) 478-3153 * >* The Grass Valley Group Inc. - A Tektronix Company f(916) 478-3831 * >* Grass Valley, California DoD 7388 * >* "Snoozing in the grass next to the information goat path." * >************************************************************************ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ John R Galvin N5TIM Alcatel Network Systems galvin@aud.alcatel.com Richardson, Texas (214) 996-5749 ------------------------- My opinions are mine ! ----------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 17:40:51 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!portal.austin.ibm.com!awdprime.austin.ibm.com!sehneg@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Help for RS-DX-440/Sangean 803A To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I would like to modify the display light feature on the DX-440 so it toggles on & off, instead of having to keep my finger on the button. Other than buying some CMOS ICs & using the 9v supply, does anyone have an idea, or experience in doing such a thing? Many thanks in advance. N2KTY (Gary Sehne) ------------------------------ Date: 25 May 94 16:53:54 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: Lists of ham radio lists To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Well, it does help if you include the list in your message! Sorry, folks. Following is the list. Those with asterisks are the ones I can't make work, and for which I'd appreciate any help. I'll publish the complete verified list once I have checked it out. Please let me know, as well, about any lists I've omitted. Thanks! BTW: The names that follow are the list names themselves. In most instances, subscriptions to these mailing lists are handled by sending messages to a robot mailing list server with a different address than the listname itself. So please don't send "subscribe me" messages to the addresses below. I'll publish the list-server info as part of the final list of lists, but in the meantime if you must try to subscribe to one of these ** right now ** try one of the following: send a mail message to the listname with "-request" appended, and include the word subscribe in the text of the message. Example To: CQ-contest-request@TGV.COM Text: SUBSCRIBE If that doesn't work, then try sending to either majordomo@<hostname> or listserv@<hostname> and in the body of the message put SUBSCRIBE <listname>. Example: TO: majordomo@stnn.mlo.dec.com Text: SUBSCRIBE CT-user Here's the list: CQ-contest@tgv.com DX@UNBC.EDU QRP@think.com * VHF.icon_fonts@xeroxaffiliates.xerox.com <unknown at that host> Boatanchors@GNU.AI.MIT.EDU VHF@W6YX.Stanford.EDU N6TRlog@cmicro.com CT-user@stnn.mlo.dec.com ham-ant@ucsd.edu ham-bsd@ucsd.edu ham-digital@ucsd.edu ham-equip@ucsd.edu ham-homebrew@ucsd.edu ham-policy@ucsd.edu ham-radio@ucsd.edu ham-space@ucsd.edu info-hams@ucsd.edu * ham-tech@world.std.com * w1aw-list@world.std.com * ky1n-list@world.std.com <all of these appear to forward to a ham call-sign-identified user at a host in New Mexico that is unknown to my mailing system's nameserver.> 73, Pete n4zr@netcom.com NOTE: New Address ------------------------------ Date: 25 May 1994 19:12:48 GMT From: lerc.nasa.gov!kira.cc.uakron.edu!malgudi.oar.net!news.ysu.edu!yfn.ysu.edu!au919@purdue.edu Subject: Logging software? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I would like to start logging my QSO's on my computer. Any experiences/ suggestions/opinions as to how to start going about this would be appreciated. I have a PC clone, and would prefer something running inside windows. I am thinking maybe an ACCESS application or possibly a simple spreadsheet. I would think (hope) the spreadsheet would get too huge and unmanageable with time. Possibly a shareware program exists that someone might suggest? Thanks in advance and 73, Bill -- **************************************************************** *Bill Lindberg * **au919@yfn.ysu.edu***am257@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu***KC5FKN*** **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 18:16:01 GMT From: pa.dec.com!src.dec.com!crl.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!nntpd2.cxo.dec.com!specxn.enet.dec.com!bonomo@decwrl.dec.com Subject: Motorola GPS engine purchase information To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Greetings, one and all! This message is ASCII text, formatted as <CR> at =<78 characters, tabs at +8. Have finally received "everything" which I will obtain from Motorola and Trimble, and the order requests have dwindled to a minimum, I have attached the specifications and pricing below. In a nutshell, the Motorola unit is better in every way, excepting three factors. The Trimble unit: 1) is about 1/8" smaller in width and height, 2) is about .6 ounce lighter, 3) consumes less power in standby, quoted as ~2uA nominal, versus the Motorola's stated maximum of 60uA. Other than that, the Motorola VP Oncore engine is superior in all ways, including price. The recommendation, from my perspective, is to choose the Motorola unit, but your choice may vary. The above factors, in which the Trimble unit is superior, may be significant ones for you. I have had requests from 375 individuals, from nine countries, for over 435 units. All this is, of course, based on a "$150" purchase price, which is not available. Understanding this, it seems best if there is a "standard" configuration which is ordered, as the pricing given is for quantities of 100 and greater. If 100+ want the options, we'll order those, too. Remember, all prices are for 100+ units per item. In other words, if 25 units are wanted with the LNA option, the pricing for that LNA option will be be somewhat higher than the figure quoted below, and I'm not sure if Motorola can (or will) handle one-sie, two-sies and get it right. ****************************************************************************** The recommended "standard" configuration: Item Price / each (includes Colorado State sales tax) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ VP Oncore engine $268 Active Antenna $ 70 Cable to antenna $ 22 ---- Total "standard" $360 ****************************************************************************** Options to be considered: ------------------------- LNA $ 16 battery $ 11 Shipping within the continental U.S., via 2nd day service, will run $10. This includes a box, packing foam and shipping charges. This figure is good for up to ten units. Those interested in this group purchase should remit monies to the name and address below. Please send non-cash such as personal checks, money orders or the like, as it allows records to be kept much more easily. If less than 100 orders are placed, the checks/money orders will be destroyed, rather than incurring the cost of returning up to 100 of them. Alternately, if you want your check returned in the event of an insufficient number of units ordered, add a dollar bill to cover the cost of an envelope, stamp and my or my wife's writer's cramp which will inevitably result. If the order threshold is reached and an order is placed with Motorola, the $1 will be returned to you with your order. Please include a very complete address to which the order may be sent. Include your current Internet address and telephone number(s) where you may be reached, as well. I've experienced several Inet addresses which have bounced, by the way, so if you didn't receive a response from me directly, it was attempted. Send orders to: Thomas A. Bonomo 8147D Summerset Drive Colorado Springs, Co. 80920.6123 I can be reached, and have been by several individuals, at: Telephone: (719)593.9883 Home (evenings, weekends) (719)592.5105 Office (weekdays) Internet: tom.bonomo@cxo.mts.dec.com This message will be posted to the newsgroups, as well. Thanks for your patience as I've gathered information and responded to each of your requests. Regards, Tommy Specifications and pricing information follows. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Motorola VP ONCORE SPECIFICATION DATA SHEET --------------------------------------------- Receiver Architecture --------------------- o 6 channel o L1 1575.42 MHz o C/A code (1.023 Mhz chip rate) o Code plus carrier tracking (carrier aided tracking) Tracking Capability ------------------- o 6 satellite vehicles simultaneously Dynamics -------- o Velocity: 1000 m/s when altitude less than 18 km o Altitude: 18 km for velocities greater than 514 m/s o Accelleration: 4 g Antenna ------- o accepts active and passive antennas Acquisition Time ---------------- (TTFF = Time To First Fix) o 22 sec. typical TTFF (with current almanac, position, time and ephemeris) o 48 sec. typical TTFF (with current almanac, position and time) o 2.5 seconds typical re-acquire Accuracy -------- o Position: less than 25 meters, SEP (without SA). DoD may invoke Selective Availability (SA), potentially degrading accuracy to 100 meters (2 dRMS) DATUMs ------ o 49 std. datums, 2 user defined, default WGS-84 Signal Level ------------ o TTL Output Messages --------------- o Latitude, longitude, height, velocity, heading, satellite tracking status (Motorola Binary Protocol) o NMEA-0183 Version 2.00 (GGA, RMC, GLL, GSA) o LORAN emulation mode o Software selectable Operating voltage ----------------- o 4.75 - 5.25 VDC, 50 mVp-p ripple Operating current ----------------- o 230 mA typical @5V, 275 mA max at 5.25V Standby voltage --------------- o 2.5 - 5.0 VDC Standby current --------------- o 60 ua max Dimensions ---------- o 2.00" x 3.25" x .64" (50.80mm x 82.55mm x 16.26mm) Weight ------ o 1.9 oz. (53.9g) Connectors ---------- o Digital: 10 pin (2 x 5) header on .100" centers o RF: right angle OSX (sub-miniature snap-on) Operating Temperature --------------------- o -30 - +85 degrees C (without on-board battery) o -20 - +60 degrees C (with on-board battery) Storage Temperature ------------------- o -30 - +85 degrees C (without on-board battery) o -20 - +60 degrees C (with on-board battery) Humidity -------- o 95% RH, non-condensing Vibration --------- o 7.7 g, random (survivability) MTBF ---- o >61,000 hours (estimated) Optional features ----------------- o Lithium battery o Low Noise Amplifier o Real Time Clock Pricing (includes Colorado state sales tax) ---------------------------------------------- VP Oncore engine $268 Active Antenna $ 70 Cable to antenna $ 22 Low Noise Amp $ 16 Lithium Battery $ 11 Development Software 1st option $270 includes: Raw code phase, disc data, smooth sat time, carrier phase 2nd option $215 includes: above without carrier phase /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Specifications for Trimble SVeeSix GPS engine ----------------------------------------------- Model: SVeeSix-CM2 General -------- L1 Frequency, C/A code (SPS), 6 channel, continuous tracking receiver Update Rate ----------- NMEA - 1Hz Accuracy -------- Position: 25m without SA Velocity: 0.1m/s without SA Time: 1 us (nom) DGPS Accuracy ------------- Position: 2m to 5m (2 sigma) Velocity: 0.1m/s Time: 1 us (nom) Acquisition (typ) ----------------- Cold Start: 2 to 5 minutes Warm Start: 50 sec with time upload Hot start: 30 sec with time upload Reaquisition ------------ <2 sec Dynamics --------- Velocity: 500 m/sec max Acceleration: 4g Jerk: 20m/sec^3 Environmental Specs. -------------------- Operating temp: -10C to +60C Storage temp: -55C to +100C Vibration: 0.008g^2/Hz 5Hz to 20Hz 0.05g^2/Hz 20Hz to 100Hz -3dB/octave 100Hz to 900Hz Operating Humidity: 5% to 95% RH non-condensing @+60C Altitude: -400m to +18000m Physical Characteristics ------------------------ Dimensions: 3.25" x 1.83" x 0.58" Weight: 1.3 oz. (36.4g) Connectors: RF: SMB, I/O: 8 pin (2x4), 2mm header Technical Specifications ------------------------ Prime power: +5Vdc (-3% to +5%) Power consumption: 280 ma, 1.40 watts Backup power: +3 to +5 Vdc Backup consumption: 1 uA @3V and +25C (nom) Serial port/1PPS: CMOS TTL Protocol options: TSIP @9600 baud, 8-O-1 NMEA 0183 v2.0 @4800 baud, 8-N-1 TAIP @4800 baud, 8-N-1 NMEA messages: Standard: GGA,VTG Optional: GGA,GLL,VTG,ZDA,GSA,GSV,RMC Pricing (includes Colorado state tax) -------------------------------------- SVeeSix CM2, DGPS capable $321 Antenna (includes cable) $118 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ ------------------------------ Date: 25 May 1994 09:19:15 -0700 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!olivea!apple.com!apple.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Scurvy knaves at ARRL To: info-hams@ucsd.edu oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills) writes sarcastically: >The ARRL actually gives people raises? I'm shocked! What a terrible >waste of money - how can they hope to stay in business with an attitude >like that? What a bunch of losers. I'm tempted to resign - do you >realize that ARRL membership costs around 8 cents per day? Daylight >robbery! Geez, Derek, old chap, you still don't get it, do you? ARRL membership is free. It is QST which costs 8 cents a day. Or, is that both the membership and QST are free and the QSL Bureau costs 8 cents a day... Or,... I agree with Derek. Highway robbery. I'd rather spend that money on greenstamps for QSLs from KH6. Kok Chen, AA6TY kchen@apple.com Apple Computer, Inc. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 07:35:14 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!ncar!asuvax!pitstop.mcd.mot.com!mcdphx!schbbs!mothost!lmpsbbs!dub-fdev.dub.comm.mot.com!davidg@network Subject: Straight Key Interface for Supermorse To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Does anyone have information on a simple interface to allow a straight key operate with the Supermorse CW tutor ? The interface shown in the documentation is not complete. Thanks, David Gilmartin ------------------------------ Date: 25 May 1994 12:23:47 -0400 From: get.hooked.net!news.sprintlink.net!deathstar.cris.com!starcore.cris.com!not-for-mail@decwrl.dec.com Subject: Test session wierdos To: info-hams@ucsd.edu >Actually, it may be possible that the examinee, due to his >advanced years (much less his nervousness) may not have been >able to write "clearly" as demanded by some of the VEs. >I almost wondered if that guy would have had a case for an >age-discrimination lawsuit (arrghhhh). Anyway, alls well that >ends well. Maybe I should have quoted more of this article, but I think it's a shame that there was any question about passing this guy for his license... I think that Ham Radio is the BIG looser because many intelligent and desirable people are not ham radio operators just because of this silly code thing... You people on the Internet and BBS's elsewhere should know that most of the intelligent kids are heavily involved in computers, not ham radio... Were it not for this dumb morse code thing there would be thousands more interesting, creative, intelligent people in Ham Radio and it would be growing and doing lots more technologically valuable things for this country and the world... 73... Marv... (A ham for 39 years who sees no benefit to morse code today, but who is heavily into RTTY/AMTOR/Packet/PacTOR, the real digital modes...) +-- Marv Uphaus -- Muphaus@cris.com -- CompuServe: 72122,1253 --+ +-- U.S. Mail: 4031 Airport Blvd. #49 -- Mobile, AL 36608 USA --+ +-- Packet Radio: K4BVG @W4IAX.#MOBAL.AL.USA.NA Ph: 205 343-9256 --+ ------------------------------ Date: 25 May 1994 17:22:47 GMT From: get.hooked.net!news.sprintlink.net!indirect.com!buster@decwrl.dec.com Subject: WANTED: Address to get info from tapr.org To: info-hams@ucsd.edu : In article <WY1Z.94May22001727@bach.coe.neu.edu>, : Scott Ehrlich <wy1z@bach.coe.neu.edu> wrote: : >I am looking for the e-mail address contact to obtain info from : >TAPR. : > : >I know the domain name is tapr.org, but to whom/what should I send the : >message to? Will info@tapr.org or help@tapr.org work? Scott - I run a bbs for TAPR, so you can contact me and I will be glad to pass along any info that you may need. You can send a a message to fileserv@tapr.org with help as the message to get more info as well. Drop me a note here, buster@indirect.com, or on the TAPR system, kw7h@tapr.org and I will see what I can do to help. Lou Nigro - KW7H -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Water can be toxic if you keep your head under it long enough" ------------------------------ Date: 25 May 1994 13:17:07 -0400 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.ans.net!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu Subject: What does HAM mean ? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <wb6wCqC0py.Eox@netcom.com>, wb6w@netcom.com (Glenn Thomas) writes: >>> I always thought that "dx" had its origins in the Calculus of Libnitz ... That would be ironic, since dy and dx are infinitessimals.... the teeny-tiniest distance imaginable. Jose KD1SB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 18:30:11 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!uop!csus.edu!netcom.com!greg@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <CpwzA0.3zt9@austin.ibm.com>, <LEVIN.94May19125643@medea.bbn.com>, <Cq5wEu.G42@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>│ⁿ Subject : Re: HAM RADIO RUDENESS In article <Cq5wEu.G42@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> jeffj@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (jeffrey.n.jones) writes: >> >>Repeat three times every day till you've got it: >> >> USENET IS NOT REAL LIFE. >> USENET IS NOT REAL LIFE. >> USENET IS NOT REAL LIFE. > >Here, here!!! > >My ratio of 99% of good hams and 1% idiots sometimes gets reversed here. 8-) > One theory of USENET is that people say and do things that they would never do in real life, for fear of getting the shit kicked out of them. Such as walking into a crowded room and declaring that 99% of the crowd are idiots. Making one wonder whether Mr. Jones is part of the problm or part of the solution. Greg ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #574 ******************************